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Should You Spank Children Under 3 years-old?
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Jane LeMond-Alvarez
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0 post
21-Jan-2007
7:31 PM
My first question would be, do you want to teach them, re-direct them or just plain hurt them?

This is a question that will be going before California Legislators soon. Assemblywoman, Sally Lieber, will be presenting an assembly bill saying that no parent shall spank a child under 3-years old. What say you?

autumn

1 post
21-Jan-2007
10:07 PM
I think it depends on the circumstances. Spanking should not be used as a primary method of punishment, but it can be effective when more serious modes of correction are needed.
Most importantly, verbal communication that accompanies spanking is necessary, so that the child is told the reason for physical punishment and the extent of the child's misbehavior.
Michael Weitzman

1 post
21-Jan-2007
10:16 PM
Although I find it difficult to believe that the average "spanking" parent truly intends to hurt their child during the punishment process I have noted that spanking is an inappropriate and non-effective form of punishment. I have not only noted this as a recipient of "spanking" punishment but also as a witness of this type of punishment.

In this way, I believe that "spanking" at any age is really an impulsive reaction on behalf of the parent to channel sudden anger, adrenaline, or rage associated with the miss-behavior of their child. I also have noted that many parents who spank their young children have received less formal education, place less emphasis on the development of interpersonal communication skills, and believe that children "learn" from spontaneous, painful punishment such as spanking and slapping.

It is my belief that spanking children is a therapeutic outlet for adults who have been the recipients of such punishment in their lifetime. The way in which their parents had punished them as children is comfortable and is re-affirming because the parent is able to make the statement "My parents spanked me and I turned out okay."

This, combined the cycle of negative affirmations i.e. inappropriate name calling such as "stupid, idiot, ugly, bad kid, etc" in the form of scolding that generally accompanies a spanking breeds a generation of children who

1. Have great difficulty achieving anything more than their parents achieved,

2. Believe that they are okay, but not anything special,

3. Believe that it is okay to treat their children as they were treated- like property.

Finally, and perhaps most accessible and logical for everyone reading is a prime example :

If your child hits or is violent towards another child, does it really make sense to spank (a form of hitting/violence) to teach your child that hitting and violance is unacceptable. Obviously, you are only re-inforcing the action by completing it yoruself. As children aspire to be like adults and commonly similar to their parents, they will note that the parent took violent action. This memory of the violent action acts as encouragment to repeat it as if the parent had told them TO DO IT rather than as if the parent had discouraged it.

If everyone just took 10-100 deep breaths before spanking their children, spanking might not occur. Instead a constructive criticism process and stern punishment program could be used. An example of this could be removing all toy privileges for a few hours or for the day, etc.

If there is one thing that a child will avoid it is being bored... A spanking may only sting physically for a moment but the emotional damage could be forever. The child will remember the punishment but not as a consequence to a minor rule violation...

Get a punching bag if you want to hit something- Kids are not your property.

Last Edited on 21-Jan-2007 10:28 PM

ralph

1 post
28-Nov-2007
12:28 PM
Spanking? Unbelievable that care givers and parents think that spanking is in any way appropriate or "parenting". My father spanked and beat me...threw me against cars and walls...we were enemies from the time I can earliest remember...I was three and he whipped my legs until they bled into my socks...

I am a white male 6"4" tall a former psychologist and broadcaster...the day my father died...was just another day...the day my mother died...was just another day and the World is a much better place.

My father was a coal mine superintendent in Beckley, West Virginia...as was my Grandfather! We were wealthy by almost any standard... a spanking is the most violent most disgusting personal ugly...painful...sick...demented act a parent can do to a child...

Go ahead...spank your children you bastards...and when you die...nobody will cry...

If you hit me...do you possibly in your wildest demented imagination think I will EVER trust you again?

THINK! You stupid bastards...why do you even ask this question...my rage at my own and all "spanking" parents doing "god's will...make me want to puke.

Go to hell...the sooner the better! Hug your child...talk to your child...explain...guide...love..."parent"...

Spanking is what sadistic people do...they are mentally sick...control freaks...that torture children and need to be exposed as such.

Funny...nobody cares to try to spank me now...because I can defend myself...don't you DARE call yourself a man or a parent if you spank a child...to me you are scum if you do.

Does that pretty well say it?
I hope so...I hope you "get it"...

You don't "OWN" your kids...they belong to The Living God...
You don't spank...and Please the Lord of Hosts...EVER!

Ralph Allen

ralph

2 post s
28-Nov-2007
12:42 PM
By the way...children under three years old do not have the "executive" level abstract thinking ability to connect "cause and effect" they cannot cognitively understand cause and effect...they only know the fear and the pain of the spanking...they learn to fear you...and hate you...that is the sad lesson of spanking...

Executive level cognitive functioning...starts at about possibly first through third grade and does not totally develop until possibly adolescent age...

They can't understand...ok? I remember clearly my father spanking me at age three...it hurt so bad I couldn't breathe I was crying so hard...the most terifying thing could not breathe...so horriffic...I remember trying to also push a tiny fist into my mouth to try to stop crying as he yelled at me to stop crying as I wet my pants...

And he raged at me...what did I possibly do to deserve that? I am now 59 years old...I hated my father all my life...and as soon as I could left home...he cost himself his three fine sons...all smart...all self made...

My father was my enemy all my life...I'm glad he is dead...are you getting this? That is the legacy of spanking!

It forshadowed my relationship...clouded any possible trust...it was done...at age three...all I wanted was away from him...

My mother was a devout member of the Assembly of God Church...church going people that spanked their kids...

BASTARDS! and Jesus knows how I feel...the damage these two did to their kids...runs deep...my brother although successful...is a very angry man...and I am as well...

I said...when my daughter was born... "This cycle of abuse i.e. "spanking" ends with me in this family...she has never been spanked...she and I are close...she trusts me...because I treasured her...far too much to ever spank her or hurt her...

Do you get this? Be sure you do...be sure you understand the horror and the consequences of spanking...and don't give me that garbage about "I was spanked and I turned out ok"...that is just garbage...

Grow up...be a parent...be a mentor, a teacher...love your kids...guide them...once you hit your child...you are the abuser...be sure you get that!

Ralph Allen

Jane LeMond-Alvarez
Child Advocate
3 post s
1-Dec-2007
4:56 PM
Dear Ralph Allen,
Thank you for your post. You have said it better than anyone could! I admire you for being honest with what child cruelty really is and what it does to our precious children. My anger fuels me to go forward. I am now embarking on a mission with BACA (Bikers Against Child Abuse) - a national group. We are going to put together a mobile Wall of Tears that will list all the children killed by their parents/caregivers and travel the countryside to raise the awareness level of child cruelty. I do not use abuse any longer because I do not think it portrays the cruelty that egg and sperm donors inflict on their children. I want to pass laws to hold social workers (who continually return children back to their abusers) accountable and treat child cruelty as the crime it really is. Abusers are not parents - they are criminals. Again, thank you for your email. Sincerely, Jane


Jane LeMond-Alvarez
Author, "Where's Mario" and "Blinders"
Read the Books, Write to Law Makers
Stop Child Cruelty- Be Heard!

Last Edited on 1-Dec-2007 4:58 PM